tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7203803677748336080.post4328675529385211975..comments2023-09-21T08:58:39.458-05:00Comments on Bread with Honey: The Chicken Pox Vaccine: Let's Call a Spade a SpadeBreadwithhoneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01755962376048553094noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7203803677748336080.post-58898137705550323072012-06-05T10:44:08.789-05:002012-06-05T10:44:08.789-05:00Thanks for that information about vaccination of c...Thanks for that information about vaccination of chicken pox. I really agree that chicken pox vaccine is not an assurance not to get it. <br /><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.fastchickenpoxcure.com" rel="nofollow">Stefan Hall from FastChickenPoxCure</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01777525452894372968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7203803677748336080.post-53846010941274582202012-05-27T15:26:37.780-05:002012-05-27T15:26:37.780-05:00Argh- sorry for all the typos- I am ready for a na...Argh- sorry for all the typos- I am ready for a nap! I'll blame it on preggo brain!Breadwithhoneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755962376048553094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7203803677748336080.post-62729823368147497062012-05-27T15:25:42.404-05:002012-05-27T15:25:42.404-05:00Also, Jen,
I just read the Amish article you link...Also, Jen,<br /><br />I just read the Amish article you linked to, and one of my first reactions was that I bet the families who said at least 1 of their children had received at least one vaccine were families who had used a tetanus shot following a puncture wound. Many folks who don't routinely vaccinate WILL use the tetanus shot, even if it must be used in combo with other vaccines, in the case of a seious wound. That thought alone skews the conclusions of that article to me.<br /><br />If that makes any sense?<br /><br />-MBreadwithhoneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755962376048553094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7203803677748336080.post-37712488296040335502012-05-27T14:54:21.994-05:002012-05-27T14:54:21.994-05:00Thanks Jen! Maybe I should just stick with Christ...Thanks Jen! Maybe I should just stick with Christian Scientist and Mennonite, as those communities are more familiar to me and I know, based on my own personal experience and contact with these groups, that many do not vax. I'm definitely not an Amish expert. My understanding is that some Christian sects opt not to vaccinate because they don't want foreign drugs in the body, which is part of their religious beliefs. Many traditional Mennonites use NFP not because they think artificial contraception is morally wrong, but just because it is artificial, by the same line of belief. <br /><br />The chicken pox info was MOSTLY taken from the book "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Childhood Vaccinations" which I linked to on Amazon in my post. It is a great place to start. Also, I know the vax doesn't prevent the pox because several of my cousins had them (all were vax'd) when my son was a baby, too young to even get the vax, but a very dangerous time to be exposed to the pox. My aunt, who is a nurse, confirmed to me at that time that the vax lessens the severity of the pox, as well as the amount of time one is contagious, but does not exactly function as a total "preventer." That is my understanding, but please note I am not a health care professional, just a mom gathering info. Also, that was before the booster was recommended. Now children get 2 doses, which supposedly increases the immunity "though no vaccine is 100% effective" as the ackage inserts on most vaccines will tell you :). <br /><br />As to that article, well, an anti-vax individual could write a nearly identical article from the opposite side of the fence, accusing the pro-vax community of ignoring the data about the dangers of reactions and the unethical tactics of the Big Business pharmeceutical companies who create and market these drugs, and lobby to make them a legal 'must' for school kids, or what about the numbers of settlements the government has paid out to proven victims of vaccination injuries might mean to a family considering whether to immunize or not. <br /><br />And frankly I don't care if a medicine is effective. If my kid doesn't need it, I don't want it in his or her system. Period.<br /><br />Some kids with specific health issues might benefit greatly from certain vaccines. But by the blanket requirement that all children be vaccinated for all the host of deiseases... well, I'm not ok with that, not for my kids. <br /><br />I had a personal conversation with an internationally 'famous' pediatrician, whom I don't feel comfortable naming without his permission, and he said in their practice, families who nurse exclusively for 6 months, with extended bf for around 2 years or more, who NEVER use daycare (even at the gym while mom works out), and who have demonstrated commitment to an excellent diet and healthy lifestyle, they do not fight those families if they choose not to vaccinate. But they are a pro-vax practice and strongly push vax's at everyone else, albeit on a delayed schedule, using only single-disease vax's, one per visit.<br /><br />I don't really feel comfortable putting my health care choices out in cyberspace. All I'll say is we talk with MANY doctors and gather MANY professional opinions when we decide on each vaccine, for each child. And yes, we have used vaccines for our progeny before. I am not rabidly anti-vax! Not at all. But it is a weighty issue and parents have every right to have ALL the info they need to make informed decisions, not to be pushed around my scare tactics from the medical community, imo.<br /><br />Also, while children do die of chicken pox, I feel that an attentive caregiver with know-how, time, and love can nurse a child through many of the diseases we immunize for. And while that seems irresponsible and risky to so many folks, all I can say is, it should be the parents who decide which set of risks they feel comfortable with for their children (sudden widespread outbreaks of polio aside!!!).Breadwithhoneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755962376048553094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7203803677748336080.post-6322470016666688622012-05-26T23:28:57.145-05:002012-05-26T23:28:57.145-05:00I'm new to your blog and found it via your dia...I'm new to your blog and found it via your diaperswappers post. Do you delay/selective vaccinate? Do you believe that the majority of Amish don't vaccinate, and why would they not do so because they are a "Christian sect"? Have you seen this article?<br />http://blogs.plos.org/thepanicvirus/2011/06/28/anecdotal-amish-dont-vaccinate-claims-disproved-by-fact-based-study/<br /><br />Also, what's your take on this?<br />http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/07/26/more-evidence-for-the-effectiveness-of-v/<br /><br />Can you link to a study showing that the varicella vax does nothing but shorten the amount of time one has chicken pox? This is news to me and I'd like to read the scientific data on this.Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10139183650270670810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7203803677748336080.post-85483719051302025602012-05-24T23:08:32.233-05:002012-05-24T23:08:32.233-05:00Great post, Maureen!Great post, Maureen!Jessicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16316318545178337275noreply@blogger.com